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I have to wholeheartedly agree with Keven. Fruit juices should be strained before shaking; apart from anything else, the second strainer will slightly raise the temperature of a drink you have so purposely just chilled. If you are getting ice shards in the glass, then you need a higher quality Hawthorne strainer. I never get ice shards. I would have to buy a cheaper Hawthorne strainer to be able to do that. The only good reason for fine straining is after muddling.