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John CARR

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Zaza
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Tried a Byrrh version this evening (a Baba, perhaps?), with more Gin and It proportions of 52.5 fords, 30 Byrrh, no bitters. Very pleasant aperitif style drink. Could easily chuck in 5ml Luxardo to make it later in the evening.

Mulled Negroni
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John CARR

Very Christmassy! Seemed liked the perfect opportunity for Four Pillars Shiraz Gin, especially as lacked an open bottle of red wine.
Sweet and spicy and definitely less bitter than usual, but still definitely a negroni.

John CARR

Made with actual red on this occasion: Blackstone Paddock Barossa Shiraz (full bodied, fruit led, good tannins). Again very much a negroni, with some very pleasant wine notes. Really delicious.

John CARR

I find fernet broadly reminiscent of cough syrup (not in a good way - someone back me up here pls!), so was pleasantly surprised to find this the best (least offensive?!?) use I’ve found so far, although I admit to tempering the full measure with some Strega. Some genuinely delicious flavours going on here. The orange is notably present and balancing to the fernet. Byrrh in this instance provided some nice vinous back notes. Will definitely be having again 🧡.

Light & Day
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John CARR

One of those subtle, cunning cocktails that you can have a lot of fun with asking guests to guess the ingredients. Another testament to how Luxardo can disappear amongst other glassmates whilst remaining the driver of the whole cocktail.
The contrasting qualities of sweetness and depth with light, fresh herbal notes were really excellent.

John CARR

I assume the title is intended as a faint echo of the Cole Porter song Night and Day.

Light & Day
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Calvin Grant

Did try this as per your suggestion in the Six Cylinder thread. Will definitely revisit this when I find that elusive bottle of Chartreuse Juane (subbed Dolin Génépy). Subtle and complex, this one demanded tiny sips to unravel the contents. Might have missed the orange had I not known it was there (navel's not the best juicer) and the cherry notes from the maraschino were rather transparent. Definitely juniper from the gin plus all the bitter hearbals from the gin, the génépy, and the barrel aged Peychaud's. Mostly.

John CARR

My feeling here is of sun-kissed springtime fields, hay rustling in the breeze, endless summers, wildflower meadows and newmown grass.

Light & Day
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Calvin Grant

Did try this as per your suggestion in the Six Cylinder thread. Will definitely revisit this when I find that elusive bottle of Chartreuse Juane (subbed Dolin Génépy). Subtle and complex, this one demanded tiny sips to unravel the contents. Might have missed the orange had I not known it was there (navel's not the best juicer) and the cherry notes from the maraschino were rather transparent. Definitely juniper from the gin plus all the bitter hearbals from the gin, the génépy, and the barrel aged Peychaud's. Mostly.

John CARR

I guess our old friend Strega could be an option too? This one also came out well as a 2/3 serving; keep ‘em wanting more..! Double checked that yellow chartreuse contains 130 herbs, so perhaps we should be modest in our tasting ambitions! 😂. Maybe think of this as a White Manhattan?!

Light & Day
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Calvin Grant

Did try this as per your suggestion in the Six Cylinder thread. Will definitely revisit this when I find that elusive bottle of Chartreuse Juane (subbed Dolin Génépy). Subtle and complex, this one demanded tiny sips to unravel the contents. Might have missed the orange had I not known it was there (navel's not the best juicer) and the cherry notes from the maraschino were rather transparent. Definitely juniper from the gin plus all the bitter hearbals from the gin, the génépy, and the barrel aged Peychaud's. Mostly.

John CARR

I guess our old friend Strega could be an option, Calvin?

Royal Cypher
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John CARR

Excellent, thanks Jason. I was regrettably lacking in the stipulated gin, substituted fords, but will definitely retry stronger when it comes in. I haven’t seen crown jewel on offer in Australia, not even online for ready money.

Red Hook
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Caspian Berggren

It's sweet but it's deliciously sweet. The Maraschino elevates some cherry from both Punt E Mes and the rye, without being overpowering as I tend to find Maraschino. Maybe I'll add just a dash of Ango next time to see how that fares.

John CARR

Agreed. I felt like it needed a lift so added an orange twist this evening. I can see even a few drops of bitters adding some aromatics could work.

Six Cylinder
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Calvin Grant

Yes you may and I will. Sounds interesting. I'll have to use Génépy. Just missed the last bottle of Yellow Chartreuse at the liquer store by a couple hours. Cheers!

John CARR

I’m sure Genepy will be delicious also!

Dutch Martini
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John CARR

Really delicious. Naturally I used Ketel One, but might lash out with the Belvedere next time. Perfect balance and loads of subtle flavours.

John CARR

Second iteration with ODG lost balance. I added a dash of orange bitters. Some extra dry vermouth would have helped but the bottle ran dry at 15 ml precisely. Maybe take the ODG down to 10.

Dutch Martini
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John CARR

Really delicious. Naturally I used Ketel One, but might lash out with the Belvedere next time. Perfect balance and loads of subtle flavours.

Six Cylinder
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Simon Difford

Recipe change was driven by fine-tuning this six-cylinder and discovering that it runs best on Navy strength gin,

John CARR

Yes I’m preferring the equal parts version too. Good call! Thanks Simon!

Six Cylinder
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Chris Brislawn

No "Navy strength" gin so I snuck the Tanqueray up to 3/4 oz (22.5 ml), which was enough. No reason to cut back on the Campari; the bitterness and "extra" ingredients makes this a serious, cherry fruit-forward Negroni variant. I used Byrrh, which worked quite well with the gin & Campari. Used Cocchi Extra Dry & Storico rosso, but I'm thinking a little more bitterness from Dopo Teatro instead of Storico might work well, too. There's more going on here than in a Negroni; I can see why it won a competition way back in 1928.

John CARR

Just noticed that Simon has snuck in a recipe change, reverting to original equal parts. I had Byrrh also tonight although I would lean to Dubonnet out of the two for my money. Bumped the fords gin to 30 - Navy strength would be smashing. This is a seriously good cocktail with lots going on! Used Cherry Heering but happy I also have Sangue Morlacco in stock and it’s a public holiday here tomorrow ☺️

Six Cylinder
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Calvin Grant

Might I suggest a Complex Tipperary? It's brilliant.

John CARR

May I cordially counter-invite you to a Light & Day which Simon featured this week? I don’t normally love yellow Chartreuse but the subtle harmonising is beautiful here.

Six Cylinder
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Chris Brislawn

No "Navy strength" gin so I snuck the Tanqueray up to 3/4 oz (22.5 ml), which was enough. No reason to cut back on the Campari; the bitterness and "extra" ingredients makes this a serious, cherry fruit-forward Negroni variant. I used Byrrh, which worked quite well with the gin & Campari. Used Cocchi Extra Dry & Storico rosso, but I'm thinking a little more bitterness from Dopo Teatro instead of Storico might work well, too. There's more going on here than in a Negroni; I can see why it won a competition way back in 1928.

John CARR

Thanks Chris. I’ll have to revisit this. I’ve 🩷’d it and version have pleasant memories! All the favourite ingredients. No navy strength atm either so extra gin will definitely feature 😘.

Light & Day
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John CARR

One of those subtle, cunning cocktails that you can have a lot of fun with asking guests to guess the ingredients. Another testament to how Luxardo can disappear amongst other glassmates whilst remaining the driver of the whole cocktail.
The contrasting qualities of sweetness and depth with light, fresh herbal notes were really excellent.

House of Payne
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John CARR

My ordered raspberries failed to arrive, so changed course and made a Baltic-inspired House of Hansa instead, referencing the Hanseatic League. 45 gin, 20 Campari, 20 Gustav lingonberry liqueur (Finland) and 15 Moe Handsa sour rowanberry vodka (Estonia). Read as a berry-infused, dry leaning, easy drinking negroni. Orange twist. Campari could be bumped back up to keep it more traditional negroni style.

RAC Cocktail
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John CARR

I think 4 stars is about right. Very pleasant and nice balance of lightness with depth of flavour. A splash of orange juice and shake could be an attractive variant here, leaning it towards a Satan’s whiskers (one of my favourites). I used fords gin; Tanq 10 or similar could potentially bump it up a notch.