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9th December 2025 at 21:56
Very good. I have Lillet, but no kina. So, I used just Lillet and made one of my ice cubes with tonic water. I think it added that touch of bitterness/astringence I was looking for.
8th November 2025 at 23:36
An excellent cocktail and will definitely repeat, but ... reading comments on Quninquinis / Kina aromatised wines on Difford's Guide, at least for this cocktail, he prefers a 50/50 mix of one of the modern Kina Lillet proxies and Lillet Blanc. I made this using Sacred Amber Vermouth one of the modern Kina Lillet substitutes, and I think next time, I will forgo the Lillet Blanc and go with a full 1.5 oz of Sacred Amber Vermouth. For me, the Lillet Blanc contributed a little too much sweetness. I should add that I chose this cocktail to make use of Ferrand Dry Orange Curaçao which I recently acquired. After trying, I wanted more orange so I added a bit more which for me elevated the drink. Maybe that's a function of the Quina Lillet substitute I used?
25th July 2025 at 03:25
Had to make do with Combier as I was out of Dry Curaçao. Added some orange zest. Fantastic none the less!
23rd October 2024 at 01:43
I really enjoyed this drink. Although now that I have read some history about Barney I would make it with a South African Brandy instead of a Cognac, and sipping and reflecting on whether he jumped or was pushed off the boat.
Sometimes the backstory on a cocktail takes it to the next level.
28th March 2024 at 12:00
Retried with actual cognac, very rounded and smooth. At this point I think I prefer the bucolic ruggedness of Armagnac. This cocktail really reflects the choice of base spirit.
25th July 2025 at 03:40
I made it with a cheap French brandy and it was still really good thanks to the Kina L'Aero and Lillet Blanc combo. I imagine Armagnac or Cognac could bump this up a notch. How goes your winter months my friend?
15th January 2025 at 06:33
Retried with Kina L'Aero d'Or (now that I have some), using Angostura Orange Bitters and Remy 1738. (I think I prefer an arcadian idyll lubricated by cognac.) Instead of orange curacao I substituted P. Ferrand Limited Edition Late Harvest Moroccan Yuzu Dry Curacao, which we both agree really made this cocktail exceptional. Five stars.
15th March 2024 at 11:53
Riffing on Ashley and John’s comments, tried with Irish whiskey, which imparted a certain mellowness- have previously been using Armagnac.
23rd April 2023 at 02:39
Simon is pointing us towards Tempus Fugit Kina L'Aero D'Or, which may be great, but neither that nor Caperitif is available out here in the provinces. Found Bonal Gentiane-Kina aperitif locally and it has the bitter/herbal backbone to use in cocktails like this. L'Aero D'Or sounds like it has more orange-y flavors so I upped the Curacao to 1 tsp and used Angostura Orange bitters. Not too sweet and plenty of interesting flavors going on. My wife agrees that this one is a winner.
29th January 2025 at 14:01
How are you finding l’aero d’or vs. the Bonal, given I’ve only had the opportunity of sampling the latter? The former does indeed sound more orange-y! … also in light of what Kina Lillet might have tasted like originally? I suspect Cocchi Americano actually does quite well in reproducing the sweet-bitter vector, I.e. high in both quinine and sugar.
5th February 2023 at 01:26
This is an amazing drink (top 5 for me), although I must admit I've never had the true thing. I haven't been able to find any Kina (supply chain issues for my local liquor stores in early 2023), so I instead used a bottle of Pineau des Charentes. I'm not sure how off that is in terms of flavor, but I assure you the resulting cocktail is excellent.
21st September 2022 at 16:40
Would Cap Corse Blanc work instead of the Kina/Lilley combo?
1st August 2022 at 23:48
I love these classic cocktails presented as they were designed. Very smooth with just the right amount of sweetness to be a good aperitif. All the flavours blend well together with just a slight hint of spice.
15th July 2022 at 19:43
In a heatwave this seems to work rather well on the rocks with 1½ oz. soda water.
22nd August 2021 at 21:32
A little one dimensional from all the grape based liquors. Would try with Laird’s bottle in bond instead of cognac.
1st August 2022 at 23:50
I could see that or an overproof rye. But then it would be a completely different cocktail. Time to do some experimentation.
19th August 2020 at 22:35
One of the best cocktails i've ever tasted
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3rd July 2020 at 03:33
We used Dubonnet with Lillet Blanc. Nice slightly sweet floral and fresh.