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John CARR’s Avatar John CARR
17th July 2024 at 15:11
Thanks for the update on recipe re the different types of genever. The old duff version plus vermouth Di Torino works really well. Brings out the maltiness versus vermouth fruit and depth brilliantly. Still wondering if some slight tweak might balance it even more?
Simon Difford’s Avatar Simon Difford
17th July 2024 at 20:09
I've further amended to show the recipe Philip "Old" Duff himself recommends.
Simon Sedgley’s Avatar Simon Sedgley
22nd April 2024 at 05:53
Given that New York was originally a Dutch colonial town, then named New Amsterdam, it is little surprise that genever would have been the original 'gin' used in this cocktail.
John CARR’s Avatar John CARR
7th March 2024 at 09:40
Used old Simon, which isn’t particularly orange flavoured, but the result was nonetheless quite fruity - not to mention very complex, bittersweet and surprisingly herbal- used Dolin for both vermouths. Would love to try the maraschino version at some point too.
Fredie Martineau’s Avatar Fredie Martineau
24th September 2023 at 14:50
Not sure about this receipt. I felt the subtle (good quality) Dutch genever was overpowered by the orange Curacao.
Sam Donaldson’s Avatar Sam Donaldson
29th May 2023 at 01:05
For a lovely version with hints of vanilla, add 20 mL Licor 43 tothis recipe. We call it the Señor Martinez.
Morten Carlsbaek’s Avatar Morten Carlsbaek
12th May 2023 at 13:33
Warning: do you NOT use Old Duff Genever, which I did first thing me. In this recipe, it will totally overwhelm the taste. Use a more subtle, mellow old genever. I agree with Simon choose with care.
letti pearce’s Avatar letti pearce
3rd June 2022 at 17:42
The genever gives this a really nice and interesting yeasty breadth depth.
John Hinojos’ Avatar John Hinojos
13th March 2022 at 01:05
This is my favourite version of this cocktail. The genever adds a different taste more to what the original may have tasted.
We will never really know about the original cocktail. According to Wikipedia the actual origin of this cocktail is not known. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martinez_(cocktail). Since there are many versions here, I suggest trying the all and keeping the one (or ones) you like the best.
S BA’s Avatar S BA
9th February 2022 at 23:13
A Martinez requires maraschino liqueur (cf. Jerry Thomas Bartenders Guide).
Simon Difford’s Avatar Simon Difford
10th February 2022 at 10:02
Just been corrected by Paloma and my own Martinez page. Craddock stipulates Curacao or Maraschino in a Martinez but Thomas only does in his Manhattan.
Simon Difford’s Avatar Simon Difford
10th February 2022 at 08:58
Not according to O. Byron who published the first Martinez recipe in his 1884 ‘The Modern Bartender’. Jerry Thomas omits the Martinez from his 1862 first edition and second 1876 edition but it does appear in the 1887 edition published two years after his death. Vintage cocktail books, including Harry Craddock’s 1930 ‘The Savoy Cocktail Book’ and indeed Jerry Thomas’ 1887 ‘Bar-tenders Guide’ stipulate “Curaçao or Maraschino.” Perhaps an argument for equal parts of both.
22nd November 2021 at 02:44
Stick with mild, minimally-aged vermouths - Cocchi, Lillet, and Carpano overpower the genever. Nothing like a martini.
Jordy Clasie’s Avatar Jordy Clasie
28th November 2020 at 16:34
Crazy good. Balance is incredibly on point!