El Presidente is made with blanc vermouth, not dry. The extra sweetness complements the small amount of grenadine and curaçao. Why fiddle with what is already a nearly perfect cocktail?
With only bianco vermouth the Presidente needs a splash of lime [see “El Presidente (Sloppy Joes)” link above] or it is too sweet. However, I also see that with dry vermouth some find this too dry. Hence, in the spirit of compromise, I’ve moved to 50:50 of each vermouth and must admit that the cocktail is better for it.
I used a split base of plantation 3 stars and Appleton 8 yrs, Cointreau because I don’t have curacao, and Dolin dry vermouth. Really nice. Wonderfully orange-flavoured, rum-forward, fresh and gentle. Perfect for a balmy spring day.
I used home-made grenadine, and I'm not sure if it's as sweet as commercial one. In my case, it added some sweetness, but it respected the dryness of vermouth, which I loved. So I don't think I'll ever use white vermouth instead. My rum was St Teresa, nothing to write home about.
Don't know about "the better class of Cuban," but we really enjoy it. A full oz of dry vermouth looked a bit much for a rum drink so I took a cue from Difford's earlier recipe and used a half oz each of dry and bianco, no rosso. Upped the rum to 1.75 oz to dry it out a bit in compensation for the bianco. An excellent herbal rum cocktail that isn't at all tiki but instead features your rum and vermouth choices. Not sure why the meager half teaspoon of grenadine is in there; its small additional sweetness is unnecessary with the bianco.
This seems to be a drink which allows for personal taste and adaptation.
I used Bacardi 8yr and Gifford Grenadine Liqueur rather than syrup and it was beautiful and one I need to play with but not too much.
Really tasty
Wonderful. Like all pre-prohibition Cuban cocktails you can taste the rum and it is not overly sweet. Used a Clement VSOP which gave a wonderful flavour.
I have over 25 different rums and love the subtle differences and taste you can experience from a first class rum.
Would love to know some of your favourite rums for this cocktail. I have only used Havana Club 3 year old. While this works well, I would love to try something else potentially more interesting!
I just remade this with Lillet Blanc in place of dry vermouth after watching Greg recommend it on his How To Drink YouTube channel, and it's a revelation how much better it makes this drink. I used Appleton Estate Signature, Pierre Ferrand curacao, and a homemade grenadine. A completely different experience from the one with dry vermouth, and much more to my personal tastes. I'll have to try the mixed-vermouth version next to see how it compares.
This recipe is WAY too liqeuer forward and lacks body. I experimented and found that.
Without changing much I like:
-50ml Coffey Still Rum
-10ml Cointreau
-15ml Dry Vermouth
-2.5ml Homemade grenadine (1.5:1)
-1 Dash Ango.
If I was to make this my own, I would do:
-60ml Appleton Estate 12y
-15ml Lilet Blanc
-7.5ml Cointreau
-7.5ml homemade tonka cherry syrup
I recently tried this with TCRL High Seas (a Panama-Jamaica-Martinique blend with light aging) and an amber vermouth (the M&R ambrato or Rockwell's native amber). Worked great and gives some of that feeling of blended vermouths without multiple bottles...
Any reason for the new changes, Simon? Just curious about your opinion - was the blending of the various vermouths just overcomplicating? (As much as I enjoy using Cocchi Storico in mine)
An incredible all-timer of a cocktail. My personal spin prefers using 1 oz Plantation Grande Reserve, 1/2 oz Smith & Cross, 2/3 oz Cocchi Storico (and leave out the Bianco, having its ratio filled by the Cocchi Storico), and keeping the rest of the recipe list intact with the 2/3 oz Dolin Dry and 1/3 oz Curaçao, with grenadine and bitters to taste.
I find a homemade grenadine (with the proper hits of orange blossom water) really makes this punch above-weight as well.
Adapting from some other recipes I found online, I substituted 1/2 oz dry vermouth, 1/2 oz Cocchi Storico, 2 dashes Regan's orange bitters, and increased the (real) grenadine to 1/6 oz, and it was delicious!
safe to say, El Presidente is my favourite cocktail ever made, and these specs solidified that. not really a fan of Martini's vermouths though, so i swapped those for Bramley & Gage, seeing as their distillery's fairly local to me
Wow. Pretty much the perfect cocktail. With the bitters (and possibly grenadine depending on your sugar ratio) being able to be applied to taste it can be tailored to pre dinner, after dinner or for any other time.
Wow, rum and vermouth, who would have thought. Didn't have any bianco (obviously my extensive drinks cabinet doesn't run as far as Mark Shah's:) so used a rather aged chardonnay, also orange bitters. Very nice complex drink with lovely orange overtones,
5+ for me with a Doorly's 3 year, Noilly Prat Dry, La Quintenye Blanc and 1757 Rosso. Swapping the Noilly for a Dolin Dry took it down to a 4.5 - lost a lot of roundness.
I seem to remember getting an even better combo by splitting the base with something like 7.5ml of Eldorado 8, but I'll have to try it again to confirm.
An excellent rendition of this drink, distinctly orange and I love the vermouth combination. I added a dash of orange bitters. Without gold rum I used 1 oz white rum and 1/2 oz black seal rum.
Great aperitif cocktail. Perfect for an after 5 pick-up. We used Clemente Creole Shrub instead of the curacao. We have both, but I prefer the Creole Shrub with many rum drinks as it has the same base ingredient.
I wanted to make this, but I wanted a simpler one, so I went with 1.5oz aged rum, 3/4oz bianco vermouth, 1/2oz orange liqueur (I didn't have curacao), barspoon of grenadine, but I also added orange bitters. That pushed it to the sweeter side, but it was nonetheless quite delicious. https://www.diffordsguide.com/cocktails/recipe/6383/el-presidente
There is another story about the name that suggests it was named after Cuban President Gerardo Machado y Morales, who offered it to visiting US President Coolidge, who didn't touch it as it was during the Prohibition era.
hey mr difford
manuel is a name.
manual is same word/meaning as manual in english. ie instructions book. so “manual del cantinero” is the right spelling.
if you care to correct ;)